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Geschrieben von: Sea Mac May 22 2007, 18:34
How large can potted Salvia plants grow? I'm curious ...
I have a plant that is 25 months old in a 24" diameter plastic pot.
I call him "Calvin" and he's SUCH a dear plant to me. I love him and talk to him every day.
Here's another view of us and a few of the 'baby plants' sheltering under him:
Is this big? I thought he had a lot of growing to do yet! He is only 6 feet tall and I understand 10 feet is possible!
Until somebody posts a picture of a larger plant I'm going to start calling him "The largest Salvia divinorum plant in captivity".
And if you want to see his 'baby pictures' of when he was 'just a little stick' go here:
http://members.cox.net/thegarden/index.html.
How large have YOUR potted Salvia plants gotten?
Geschrieben von: hogie May 22 2007, 19:15
I Love your salvia tree 
This plant had a little more than 2 meters:
But the pot was much too large and filled with slimy soil.
Now I have many 2m-Plants in 12cm-pots. The solution are only soilless mixtures with hydroponics.
Geschrieben von: Bananaman May 22 2007, 20:41
i don't think that it can becomes more size than yours already have...
because its no tree you know ^^
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac May 23 2007, 00:56
because its no tree you know ^^
Will he stop growing then?
The plastic stake that came in his mothers pot said "Six to Ten feet tall". and he is only 6 feet tall.
I think he will grow bigger until his roots fill up the pot he is in now then maybe he will slow down or stop.
Bigger maybe 8 feet tall or even Ten.
We will see, won't we.
HOGIE! You had a NICE Sized TREE! Perhaps the biggest that ever grew in Germany! I am VERY Impressed!
Geschrieben von: hogie May 23 2007, 11:07
@Sea Mac: Your wonderful climate is really perfect for salvia growing outdoors. Always warm and sunny, never too hot and air humidity always >60% 
http://gocalifornia.about.com/cs/sandiego/l/bl_sd_temp.htm
Geschrieben von: Bananaman May 23 2007, 17:22
i think that it will stop to grow into the sky ^^
it will get more ......the green things that are at the plant ^^
but much higher... i dont think so ^^
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac May 24 2007, 00:20
So, how much bigger will these dozen trees get then?
They are on the north side of the building! Will they get as big as the tree on the east side of the building?
Geschrieben von: dARK_gRIFFON May 24 2007, 07:32
Why do you ask us? You are the good Salvia grower!^^
I think that depens on the size of the pot and the nutrients in it...
How old is this plant, and how big is it?
Your plants are huge, how many kilos of leafs can you pick in a year?
Geschrieben von: Dingo May 24 2007, 21:34
lol
@ dARK_gRIFFON, you know, in America every thing is bigger. Sea Mac only want to make us jealous.
I love your last Picture. The color and the contrast between the light and the shadow are wonderful.
Your JPG comment is cool
I`m sure that you love your plants very much because nobody writes those JPG comments for unimportant pictures.
I think I have to visit you and to admire your plants with my own eyes.
Geschrieben von: frizzle fry May 25 2007, 04:29
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hey ....
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beware,
he just wants to eat em all up (!!!!!!!!)
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac May 25 2007, 07:19
I have nice growing weather.
I never pick leaves. I wouldn't want something to come along and pick a part off of ME so I never like to do this to other creatures. (I'm Crazy).
I wait until the plant is done with it and throws it away. I seldom bother to pick up the leaves from the Ground anymore.
Miracle-Gro and LOTS of Love!
This Plant is 25 months old and 6 feet tall ...
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I couldn't trust my eyes so today I took a Tape measure out to measure a 4 month old 'Baby Plant'.
I've repotted this Plant this evening and She is named "Sally" now ...
Before I repotted Sally she measured 26" (66 cm) tall (she was root bound, in an 8" pot, poor baby):
But what astonished me SO Much was the SIZE of her Leaves!
I measured a leaf at 12" (30 cm) from stem to end ...
Salvia's Leaves CAN reach a Foot long (Rarely)!
Some sort of Record setting leaf there ...
@ dARK_gRIFFON, you know, in America every thing is bigger. Sea Mac only want to make us jealous.
I love your last Picture. The color and the contrast between the light and the shadow are wonderful.
Your JPG comment is cool
I`m sure that you love your plants very much because nobody writes those JPG comments for unimportant pictures.
I think I have to visit you and to admire your plants with my own eyes.
Yes, I DO love them very much! They somehow know it too! (They can't read my .jpg comments - and most people never see those personal notes ... )
Dingo is an Uber Computer user if he sees my Comments: they are hiding from casual eyes. Most people do not know those data fields are embedded in there. (Secret messages!)
Dingo: not much slips by YOU ...
But I know you have downloaded the picture to your hard drive in order to be able to access the file's meta data!
you are so busted! Your words tell on you.HO-Ho-ho! http://softwaresanta.com/smf/ Not much gets by ME either ...
Geschrieben von: sia May 25 2007, 18:49
I measured a leaf at 12" (30 cm) from stem to end ...
Salvia's Leaves CAN reach a Foot long (Rarely)!
Some sort of Record setting leaf there ...
Hmm, I've had a few leaves that size... some were even a lot larger - i usually measure the leaves not from the stem but from where the point were the actual leaf beginns ... and measuring like that i've had leaves with 32 to 36 cm
The size of that plant (calvin?) is a record Oo *admire*
I'm totally dislike temperatures over 25°C, else I'd move to california, when i'm a bit older. Maybe washington/Oregon then... we'll see
keep that one growing and post more pics
Geschrieben von: Dingo May 26 2007, 01:14
[offtopic]
I can see everything.
You have an Olympus Cam.
I know all your secrets.
Its because I found the software to see all this on http://softwaresanta.com/smf/. Even debt.
But I know a little Elf that is missing http://www.winamp.com/ in your collection. Its the standard player on the most XP Computers here in Europe. Nobody use the MP here.
Its a player, a MP3 ripper and can write them on CD [/offtopic]
Geschrieben von: Mintmagician May 28 2007, 14:09
At the moment I have one bigger leaf...it's as long as yours but rather round!
Everytime I'm singing the song "Fallen leaves" bye Billie Talent I think about your way of earning SAlly. Many users here do it the same way.
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac May 28 2007, 17:04
I can see everything.
You have an Olympus Cam.
I know all your secrets.
Its because I found the software to see all this on http://softwaresanta.com/smf/. Even debt.
But I know a little Elf that is missing http://www.winamp.com/ in your collection. Its the standard player on the most XP Computers here in Europe. Nobody use the MP here.
Its a player, a MP3 ripper and can write them on CD [/offtopic]
Santa Posted Winamp and gave you credit. http://softwaresanta.com/smf/index.php/topic,543.0.html There IS a Forum you can post links to presents in: http://sageseeds.info/smf/ and it even has a Video Arcade on it!
http://sageseeds.info/smf/index.php?action=arcade
Heh-heh-heh I have a lot of secrets my camera didn't tell you. But you saw some of them over in the Other forum: everyone there knows I AM Crazy. I think God knows all my secrets but I AM too deep for most People. Still, it might be nice to know a crazy man ...
Everytime I'm singing the song "Fallen leaves" bye Billie Talent I think about your way of earning SAlly. Many users here do it the same way.
Yes. I KNOW everyone's leaves must be bigger that those. That 26 inch (66 cm) plant was root bound in an 8 inch pot when those pictures were taken. It's been re-potted since then and will grow again now.
The plant needs leaves to make more of the parts of the plant. The plant usually only tosses away leaves after the branch sprouting out above it has started growing out and has small leaves on it. If you take a leaf off before the Plant is done with it then you are robbing your plant of growing just that little bit faster that it would have grown if you had left it alone. The plant will throw it away when it is done with it: then it is safe to desire to smoke/chew it.
I haven't smoked Salvia in a long time now. I'm almost immune to it at this point.
Geschrieben von: Dingo May 28 2007, 22:09
I know, but I`m sure a lot of Love and a good medical specialist can fix it.
(The Dingo is so barefaced)
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I know a German Video blog with some thousands of Games hints. If you want, I post them ore send the Links per PN.
I am full with Forum memberships. No time for other new forums.
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac May 30 2007, 14:50
I know, but I`m sure a lot of Love and a good medical specialist can fix it.
(The Dingo is so barefaced)
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I know a German Video blog with some thousands of Games hints. If you want, I post them ore send the Links per PN.
I am full with Forum memberships. No time for other new forums.
Who wants to be "Fixed"?
(I'm sure your male dog agrees with me) [it's American slang ... ]I'd settle to be loved
Geschrieben von: Kay May 31 2007, 20:29
@Sea Mac: Nice Plants! My plants died a few month ago. I got them from ebay and they were very bad.
@topic: I don't think that Salvia plants will grow higher than 10 feet! Usually they grow circa 2 meters high.
Geschrieben von: Becks Jun 6 2007, 13:46
I call him "Calvin" and he's SUCH a dear plant to me. I love him and talk to him every day.
(...)
interesting... I once watched german television where a woman stated that speaking to a plant would improve its growth... maybe there's some truth behind that
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Jun 17 2007, 19:17
I call him "Calvin" and he's SUCH a dear plant to me. I love him and talk to him every day.
(...)
interesting... I once watched german television where a woman stated that speaking to a plant would improve its growth... maybe there's some truth behind that
This picture is a month later:
I think he grows faster when I talk to him because he knows he is Loved! See for yourself how much all plants in the first pictures have grown ...
You cannot see the pot he is in because the little plants have grown up around him now. And "Sally" grew 15 inches in 21 days ...
As of June 13th Sally is 41 inches tall:
And she has 13 inch Leaves now!
(Edit: she grows a meter in the next 2 months!)
Geschrieben von: nicita Jun 17 2007, 20:36
I looked at this picutre for about five minutes. This plant is just amazing! If it gets any larger, it becomes the worlds first Salvia tree.
I just hope the plant is strong enough to hold it's own weight.
Geschrieben von: hogie Jun 17 2007, 20:57
@SeaMac:
Your plant is the nicest an biggest salvia plant I have ever seen. 
Geschrieben von: sia Jun 17 2007, 22:30
Your plant is the nicest an biggest salvia plant I have ever seen.
agreed. toooootally
however, i wonder how you keep your plants clean from aphids and stuff ...
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Jun 18 2007, 07:20
I just hope the plant is strong enough to hold it's own weight.
No. That Plant cannot hold it's weight up. No Salvia divinorum plant grows much taller than two meters in the wild be cause it falls over, or breaks off a piece and throws it down in the mud! Salvia is like Celery stalks in softness but does not have the strings inside it like Celery does. Salvia's branches bend down or flip over when they get long. All Salvia Stems and Branches are hollow, and they are very flexible when they are young and tender.
Typically the plant grows until it is too tall and when the wind blows the whole stem falls over on it's side into the mud and, over the next several weeks, EACH Node puts roots down and a new stem up: creating an instant hedge of Salvia.
Each Plant has at least a Bamboo Stick to hold it up: Calvin has dozens of 6 foot bamboo tomato stakes and 6 feet "Steel Cored Stakes", and one 8 foot high pole to lean on. He would have thrown away 3 foot long branches a year ago if I didn't support him! If I pulled all the poles out of his pot he would collapse into a tangled stack of very long cuttings right away.
"i wonder how you keep your plants clean from aphids and stuff ... "
I buy bags of Ladybugs and pour them out on my plants: I also bought a Mantis egg case and last week a hundred baby preying Mantis came out to walk all over my trees and eat up every other bug on them! (Pictures soon!)
But, I can't keep them clean: all I can do is put more bugs on them. They Had Aphids on them last time I looked. But all the new Praying Mantis shall grow fat upon the aphids and Spider Mites soon.
But I don't CARE if Ladybugs or Praying Mantis stroll up and down all over all my trees. In fact I'm rooting for them!
Geschrieben von: Kay Jun 19 2007, 14:17
Very nice plant! It's a great idea to put mantis on your plants. I like this insects. But the plant is very amazing, I've never seen a bigger one! 
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Aug 24 2007, 14:24
Here is a new Picture.
Calvin grows BIGGER! Almost twice as tall as I am. Soon he will hit the Tarp above him.
Tall above the house windows: Almost to the drainpipe on the roof! I must use a ladder to work on him now!
Happy growing to all my German pen-pals!
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Sep 2 2007, 05:08
It didn't stop growing: soon it shall reach the drainpipe!
Maybe rooftop tall by Christmas?
Pictures are taken August 30th. Look back through this topic and see ALL the pictures of this tree as he gets bigger and bigger each time I post.
By the way: that is not all one tree! Sweetie and Sally and Sammy and Suzi and a Dozen more are around him! Sally and Sammy are almost 7 feet tall!
That is a Small forest of Salvia Plants.
Geschrieben von: Razer Sep 2 2007, 19:42
I got a question, can every salvia plant grow this size if you put them into a big bucket?
Or are you doing something special to your plants? Are you growing salvia on your own special way?
Please dont say its your secret 
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Sep 3 2007, 03:46
Or are you doing something special to your plants? Are you growing salvia on your own special way?
Please dont say its your secret
As far as I know, yes. Salvia needs LOTS of room for her roots if you want her to grow that big.
The only things I'm doing .... A BIG enough Pot / No Peat Moss in the Soil Mix / Support poles to tie to / Plenty of Sunshine and Time and Water / And Miracle-Gro fertilizer a couple of times a month.
I DO grow them my own special way: I talk to them. I SUSPECT that the Same thing is Happening in my Garden as what Happened in Findhorn Bay Gardens in the Mid 1960s: http://www.findhorn.org/about_us/display_new.php#anchor-garden somehow they grew the most giant fruits and herbs and Vegetables ... 42 pound Cabbages! I'm just doing this with whatever plants I have at hand (And it was Salvia that first responded to it).
http://www.findhorn.org/whatwedo/vision/cocreation.php
"Co-creation with nature
Eileen and Peter Caddy and Dorothy Maclean all followed a disciplined spiritual practice for many years before they came to live at Findhorn, and they continued their regular meditation times when they came to live at the caravan park.
In May, 1963 Dorothy Maclean received an insight from within as she meditated:
. . . The forces of nature are something to be felt into, to be reached out to. One of the jobs for you as my free child is to sense the Nature forces such as the wind, to perceive its essence and purpose for me, and to be positive and harmonise with that essence.
When Dorothy shared this insight with Peter, his idea was to apply to their fledgling garden what Dorothy learned from the forces of nature. Dorothy then received this insight:
Yes, you can cooperate in the garden. Begin by thinking about the nature spirits, the higher overlighting nature spirits, and tune into them. That will be so unusual as to draw their interest here. They will be overjoyed to find some members of the human race eager for their help. "
There: that is the Magick I AM using! I Talk to my Plants and then I LISTEN to what they SAY ...
Of Course, you have to be Spiritually attuned (Or Crazy) to do this: but Everyone can Practice at it.
Or maybe it's the Miracle-Gro ... you decide. I think that EVERYONE can use 'love magick' to grow GIANT Plants!
I just hope the plant is strong enough to hold it's own weight.
In 2 and a half months he has gotten MUCH Larger. I'm calling him a "Tree" now and believing it.
(Maybe it's just a really, Really tall bush? NAH! Those last 2 pictures say it all! )
TREE!
Say it: "That is a Salvia TREE"!
(Unmanageably large! I'm Scared!
Suppose he falls over on my house? )
Geschrieben von: flashwumme Sep 8 2007, 19:58
ya, i bet it would psych you out
*pun intended*peace,
flashwumme
Geschrieben von: T0bias Sep 8 2007, 20:06
yea ya can really say its a tree^^
im intrested what yield youd have to expect if teh plant would be dead and dried^^ i think it's about 250g dry, or what do you think
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Sep 9 2007, 02:34
im intrested what yield youd have to expect if teh plant would be dead and dried^^ i think it's about 250g dry, or what do you think
I honestly have no Idea. I haven't smoked Salvia in a long time: I don't even pick up the hundreds of fallen leaves anymore. I could have Kilos of leaf by now - I don't care ...
I'm just stupefied at how much he's growing: here is a recent picture of us from last week.
I MUST trim him Back some!
Happy Gardening!
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Oct 3 2007, 16:03
Hi all!
It's been a few months.
They didn't stop growing.
Sally and Sammy are over 8 feet tall now: they are exactly 8 months and 3 days old now!
Here:
(View from the side looking North)
Sammy is way out of my reach! He was born on Jan. 31st 2007 and 8 months later (Feb. - Sept.) needs repotting.
I'm planning on getting all those 10" branches he's covered with off of him today - as cuttings.
Then, when he's had a haircut, I'll try to move him from a 12" pot to a 16" pot. I'm going to wrestle a shrub taller than me and hope I don't hurt him.
I'm dwarfed by large healthy Salvia shrubs! (View from the front looking West)
Calvin grew into the tarp over him and got broken. There is a branch leaning against the wall up there and he's going for the gap between the tarp and the wall! He plans to colonize the roof area "Above the Jungle Canopy" with dozens of branches!
Sneaky GIANT Plant!
Namaste, friends!
Geschrieben von: lif3 Oct 9 2007, 05:08
Hey Sea Mac,
Do you mind if I email you at your gmail email address, for tips on how you care for your plants (soil changes/fertilizers/sunlight/etc, standard growing questions)?
Also, any information on the rare seedings would be fantastic to know about. I know if I ever got seeds from my divinorum plant I really wouldn't know what to do with them. . (actually, never mind on the seeding information, I just thoroughly read and understood your seeding webpage!)
James
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Oct 10 2007, 22:15
Do you mind if I email you at your gmail email address, for tips on how you care for your plants (soil changes/fertilizers/sunlight/etc, standard growing questions)?
Also, any information on the rare seedings would be fantastic to know about. I know if I ever got seeds from my divinorum plant I really wouldn't know what to do with them.
. (actually, never mind on the seeding information, I just thoroughly read and understood your seeding webpage!)James
I kinda started such a project a few months back.
It is here: http://sageseeds.info/tutorials/index.php
It's still a work in progress ...
Happy growing ...
Geschrieben von: hogie Oct 10 2007, 23:46
@Sea Mac: Im sorry. You are too small for your plants.
Geschrieben von: lif3 Oct 11 2007, 04:45
Thanks a lot Sea Mac, your help is very much so appreciated.
I agree with hogie, you look very short in those pictures because your plants are so enormously!
James
Geschrieben von: Mephisto Oct 11 2007, 21:50
Seamac, your plants are real trees^^
I've read your linked site about the Seeds...but i still have one question...do they need heat or are 21°C/70°F enough?
your plants are cheating,like you - they are in their pots, not on the ground
Geschrieben von: 1er Oct 12 2007, 19:28
Very nice......... I like your Sallys really
mfg
Lars 
Geschrieben von: Surak Oct 25 2007, 00:37
If there were no pictures, I wouldn't be able to believe that plants of this height existed anywhere in the world, no matter what climate they lived in. I suppose the Mazatec people of Oaxaca themselves would be impressed if they saw what SeaMac has achieved here.
I'm sure you love your plants, Sea Mac, but they seem to be loving you a lot as well, since they keep growing so rapidly. I was just wondering why you kept all of them in their flower-pots, since I suppose in your climate it wouldn't be a problem to put them in the ground and leave them there during the winter without taking a risk to lose any of them due to frost?
If we didn't have such cold winters here in Germany, I would attempt to raise a whole forest of salvia trees here - and in the summer I would be sitting in their shade with my friends, smoking the leaves or chewing them, like the Mazatec do!
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Oct 28 2007, 05:22
I'm sure you love your plants, Sea Mac, but they seem to be loving you a lot as well, since they keep growing so rapidly. I was just wondering why you kept all of them in their flower-pots, since I suppose in your climate it wouldn't be a problem to put them in the ground and leave them there during the winter without taking a risk to lose any of them due to frost?
If we didn't have such cold winters here in Germany, I would attempt to raise a whole forest of salvia trees here - and in the summer I would be sitting in their shade with my friends, smoking the leaves or chewing them, like the Mazatec do!
Because I rent: I don't own the land.
If I have to move these plants will move with me. (I hope. I'll rent a crane ...)
If I owned land they would be planted: then they would have grown even faster!
When I post plant measurements I always measure from the top of the dirt in the pot: never from the pot bottom. That would add 2 feet to Calvin and 1 foot to several plants.
Be that as it may be: the pipe sticking out of the wall is at 9 feet above the cement. Calvin is in a 24" tall/ 24" wide pot. His pot is on a metal trivet about 3 inches above ground. A couple of branches are a foot or 2 above that pipe. Below find 3 different views of the SAME Exact plants TONIGHT ...
YOU figure out How big he is.
70 degrees F/ 21 degrees C is Ideal for setting seeds. Jupe got some last January in cooler temperatures than that.
Today's Garden Pictures:
South looking North
My East Garden (East Looking West) October 27th 2007 (I'm too short: you can't see me).
My Garden Northeast Looking Southwest
"OK: I love you, Bye-bye"
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Nov 4 2007, 02:43
Geschrieben von: Tea For One Nov 11 2007, 22:00
Hi Sea Mac!
I really like what you are doing!
Your "seedgrow" with your own earnd seeds really astonished me!
I hope you will also post some pics in the next months to keep us informed.
Good luck !!
greez
Tea For One
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Nov 11 2007, 23:11
I really like what you are doing!
Your "seedgrow" with your own earnd seeds really astonished me!
I hope you will also post some pics in the next months to keep us informed.
Good luck !!
greez
Tea For One
As you wish.
Look to all the Pictures posted in this forum's gallery:
http://www.salviasource.org/index.php?page=Gallery Salvia Source Gallery
By "Sea Mac"
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Will Last night's photographs be fresh enough Sir?
November 10th, 2007: Several trees are involved in blooming now.
I caught them napping Saturday night with my flash.
November 10th 2007 Several trees are preparing to bloom now.
I caught them ripening up Saturday night with my flash.
November 10th 2007
What "Jack" (In the Story "Jack and the Beanstalk")
saw towering above him as he approached the beanstalk.
Camera angle: low - kneeling down and pointing up.
Looking up Sally's Skirts while she Slept last night.
Are you happy, for another week, now?
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Nov 19 2007, 05:46
Next weekly update from my Garden.
The trees are flowering now.
And Hummingbirds are liking it! On the 15th of November I took these two photos:
Close Up:
And today (November 18th) the Bird flew in my face not afraid of me:
And then Fed on flowers way above me!
So: there are Rare pictures of a hummingbird pollinating my trees!
Need to see more Salvia and less hummingbird? http://sageseeds.info/seeds2007/20071115hummingbird.jpg
Geschrieben von: T0bias Nov 19 2007, 15:42
wow! sweet (both, your flowering trees and the bird)
i thougt that humming birds are very shy, but now i know it better^^
Tobi
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Nov 19 2007, 16:01
i thougt that humming birds are very shy, but now i know it better^^
Tobi
If you hold still they will be curious.
They don't get to look at people 'close up' any more than we get to look closely at them.
I've seen photos of people hand feeding hummingbirds before. Let me see if I can find and post a few of those.
http://www.abigailsings.com/hummingbirds/
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page1375.html
A really hungry hummingbird doesn't care how many giants it must step on to be fed.
You MUST hold STILL so as not to scare them.
Geschrieben von: lif3 Nov 24 2007, 08:15
I must say, im still very astonished by your care tending skills, and your respect for these plants.
I am a failed farmer, first time ever growing anything, and it didn't turn out to good, I really badly burned my plants, one I don't think is recoverable. It's been a few months, and one is just starting to grow leaves again.
The only successful growers I know use sunlight, but It's winter time here, and we get very little sunlight, and the window sills are just too cold for the plants.
I use flourescent lighting, a fan, and a 13 hour timer to keep the plants at 'full' growth potential. Any lighting advice? I use a multipurpose soil, part mulch to allow for a successful water drain.
Anyone recommend any advice? I've read all the growers manuals numerous times over through various websites, but im not satisfied, Im very much so jealous of sea mac 
and I marvel at his wonderful creations. I wish my plants could look like that. I've been growing my plants since September, and they haven't much progressed, I think they are still recovering from that nutrition burn.
lif3
Geschrieben von: lif3 Dec 6 2007, 05:35
I think I killed the thread with my little remorse there .
Sorry about it .
Also, anyone name any good lighting or anything? seems that my plant rooted new roots because the other ones weren't supplying sufficient enough nutrients and such, due to nute burn.
Other soil was molded too, 48 hours and the surface was covered with a chalk like resin that seemed to be on top of the dirt.
So I got new soil, and transplanted them .
But I still need some names of some high quality lights that you guys use!
lif3
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Dec 28 2007, 06:07
San Diego, CA. on December 25th, 2007
"Green Christmas 2007"
I'm in Shorts and Sandals on Christmas Day! HO-Ho-ho!
I should call it "Sun Diego": the 8 foot tall trees behind me are less than 11 months old! (Sally is one of my Favorite Trees!)
Happy 3rd day of Christmas! And now I have a nice Gift for you Windows users ...
http://softwaresanta.com/smf/index.php/topic,843.0.html
Portable Apps Suite - it's sweet!
Check out the rest of the presents ... http://softwaresanta.com
Geschrieben von: m-alexxx Jan 5 2008, 13:24
wow I wish I could grow my plants outside the whole year (in my opinion the best way to keep plants). but unfortunately the climate warming isn't progressing that fast
your plants are really nice.
i hope that you don't get problems with the law, so on next christmas you can show a new picture with you building a tree-house in your sallies ^^
so (though it's a bit late...) happy new year back to california
greetings
alexx
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Jan 8 2008, 06:21
your plants are really nice.
i hope that you don't get problems with the law, so on next christmas you can show a new picture with you building a tree-house in your sallies ^^
so (though it's a bit late...) happy new year back to california
greetings
alexx
Thank You!
Now go get your presents: http://softwaresanta.com
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Jan 21 2008, 19:26
Time for a few more pictures?
First: Super good News!
AB259 has been Amended! California is no Longer considering making
Salvia divinorum a Felony!
Monday the 7th of Jan 2008: AB259 had it's wording changed!
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/asm/ab_0251-0300/ab_259_bill_20080107_amended_asm_v97.html
AB 259, as amended, Adams.
Under existing law, the sale or distribution of specified
intoxicating substances is a crime, punishable by imprisonment or a
fine.
This bill would make the sale or distribution of Salvia divinorum
or Salvinorin A, or any substance or material containing Salvia
divinorum or Salvinorin A, to any person under 18 years of age a
misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment in a county jail for not more
than 6 months, by a fine of no more than $1,000, or both.
Because this bill would create a new crime , it would impose a
state-mandated local program.
The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local
agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the
state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that
reimbursement.
This bill would provide that no reimbursement is required by this
act for a specified reason.
Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: yes.
State-mandated local program: yes.
THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:
SECTION 1. Section 379 is added to the
Penal Code , to read:
379. Every person who sells, dispenses, distributes, furnishes,
administers, gives, or offers to sell, dispense, distribute, furnish,
administer, or give Salvia divinorum or Salvinorin A, or any
substance or material containing Salvia divinorum or Salvinorin A, to
any person who is less than 18 years of age, is guilty of a
misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding
six months, or by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars
($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment.
SEC. 2. No reimbursement is required by this act
pursuant to Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California
Constitution because the only costs that may be incurred by a local
agency or school district will be incurred because this act creates a
new crime or infraction, eliminates a crime or infraction, or
changes the penalty for a crime or infraction, within the meaning of
Section 17556 of the Government Code, or changes the definition of a
crime within the meaning of Section 6 of Article XIII B of the
California Constitution. "
Now not to be a felony to touch Salvia divinorum in California OR Maine!
All the plants clapped their hands when I told them they were to be spared the Ax ....
November 23rd 2007:
In December a storm blew 4 tall plants over:
3 of them from the other angle (After I picked Sally back up) 
And a week ago I'm standing under a Salvia divinorum shade tree:
PS Salvia Plants cannot hold up a birdhouse - not even if you grow them for 10 years! I have watched them bend down under the extra weight of a hummingbird!
Do NOT hold your breath waiting for photos of a Salvia treehouse. Or birdhouse ...
I refuse to "Photoshop Enhance" anything on me or in my garden. It shall be shown as Nature made it. 
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Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Feb 3 2008, 06:19
Groundhog's day 2008: 4 of the Giant plants that kept blowing over got upgrades to 16" pots in the last 2 weeks and now stand firm in high winds.
I needed the Money so I thought I'd climb Sally up to the Giant's Castle for some golden eggs ...
Notice that the 3 central plants are 1 year and 2 days old: see how tall above that 6 foot fence they are growing? Sweetie (Sw003) near my elbow, Sally (Sw004) I'm climbing, and Sammy (Sw005) left of sweetie in the corner of the wooden fence, were all cut from Calvin (C3) on the evening of Jan 31st 2007. They were helpless little sticks - I raised them all from little sticks! Part of Calvin can be seen on the right side ...
I Measured Sally at 8 feet above dirt level in her first year of Growth: TEN Feet tall Above the sidewalk! Everyone bets that these plants will stop growing taller eventually but notice you can't see all of Sally's top ....
They will grow as tall as the support poles I tie them to. If I could find 16 foot poles to tie them to they would be that high by next winter.
Geschrieben von: Arphen Feb 3 2008, 11:42
Amazing.
How are the new strains going? I mean MoonMaiden and Aquarian. :-)
Greetings from Germany where the days grow short for salvia ;(
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Feb 7 2008, 07:46
How are the new strains going? I mean MoonMaiden and Aquarian. :-)
Greetings from Germany where the days grow short for salvia ;(
Phoenix and Aquarian I have 2 "Foot Tall" Plants of each strain and will soon be making cuttings of those two strains.
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Feb 14 2008, 10:53
Feb 8th and 9th, 2007:
the night of the 8th the old tarp is removed And I try to see the top of "Sally" ...
in the morning - the old broken Tarp is Removed
Later that day new Tarps are up:
We know if you support their stems potted Salvia divinorum plants can grow AT LEAST 8 feet tall!
I'm pretty sure they do NOT intend to stop growing when they hit the roof line so I expect them to reach 12 feet tall!
I hope the German government does Not take this sacred plant away from you!
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Feb 24 2008, 22:52
Another Photo:
As high as the roof at least ...
Geschrieben von: hogie Feb 24 2008, 23:31
Salvia D. ist already lost in Germany.
The legal state in the future will be the same as for heroine and cocaine. That salvia is a very interesting plant for pharmacological use, is ignored by the government.
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Feb 26 2008, 23:32
Salvia D. ist already lost in Germany.
The legal state in the future will be the same as for heroine and cocaine. That salvia is a very interesting plant for pharmacological use, is ignored by the government.
I'm very sorry for you all.
Hey everybody move to California Quick: BEFORE the Gestapo knocks on your door in the middle of the night.
It smells like the secret police state is alive and well in Germany!
Geschrieben von: karline Feb 26 2008, 23:44
It smells like the secret police state is Geschrieben von: Baalberith Feb 27 2008, 20:07
Wow, im ashamed for not noticing your thread anytime before.
Your plants are really impressive as hell!
I guess you really have a green thumb
I hadnt enough time to read the whole thread, so pls apologize if this question may has been answered before.
Do you grow any other psychoactive plants than Salvia D.?
And do u actually even use it, or is Salvia D. just another botanical fosterling in your green collection?
Note: If there are any misspellings, pls apologize
Geschrieben von: T0bias Feb 27 2008, 20:19
No hogie, Cocaine is less 'evil' (BtmG Anlage III)
Your plants are just lovely, Sea Mac. Hopefully the US gouvernment (or the party which is in charge of the Schedules) won't be as stupid as the one in Germany...
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Mar 2 2008, 21:58
No hogie, Cocaine is less 'evil' (BtmG Anlage III)
Your plants are just lovely, Sea Mac. Hopefully the US gouvernment (or the party which is in charge of the Schedules) won't be as stupid as the one in Germany...
The bills sponsor Changed the text of the bill to make it like Maine's LD66: It shall be a Misdemeanor to sell Salvia to Minors. We need more responsible legislators like Assemblyman Adams who actually DO the Research and act to make responsible laws! The bill adds section 379 to the penal code and it's about half way through the process of becoming law.
I think if the government does try to ban it there will be too much research proving it not dangerous or addictive by then. Your government decided not to look at the research by pretending it doesn't exist. I sorrow for German freedoms ...
My garden says "Thank You"
Even I am surprised at how big some of those plants got: so quickly!
Take care you guys!
Carl
http://sageseeds.info/tutorials/ New Tutorials!
Your plants are really impressive as hell!
I guess you really have a green thumb
I hadnt enough time to read the whole thread, so pls apologize if this question may has been answered before.
Do you grow any other psychoactive plants than Salvia D.?
And do u actually even use it, or is Salvia D. just another botanical fosterling in your green collection?
Note: If there are any misspellings, pls apologize
I haven't used those. I seldom use Salvia anymore ... but I enjoy mild effects. I cannot (yet) get "Out Of Body" (OOB) experiences with it. I'm considered by most to be Very "Hardheaded"
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Apr 21 2008, 01:54
Time for another update ...
I found out that the US DEA thinks Salvia Divinorum plants are scrawny little knee high sticks ... 
You see? People are twice as tall as Salvia plants (Whether potted or planted): our illustrious government, in its immense wisdom, has said so!
Oh yeah?
I beg to differ. Potted or planted Salvia plants will grow as TALL As You support their stems to: and then flop outwards from that point.
The plant is rubber like a hose: Suppose you grew a hose plant next to a flagpole? As long as you tied the hose to the flagpole every foot up its length, as it grew, it wouldn't want to stop at all! 4 feet over the top of the flagpole the plant would bend outward from the top ....
I answered the question I asked to start this topic with. But I don't have a mile high flagpole next to my favorite hose plant so they'll HAVE To stop SOMEWHERE ... Probably when they reach the roof.
Look up at the roof ...
I see someone was climbing that funny looking green ladder up there ...
Hello from Salvia paradise
Carl
Geschrieben von: sun Apr 21 2008, 07:39
"can grow up to 3 feet high..."
I think the person, who wrote this text has never seen your plants
Your plants are very awesome!!!
I've never seen so big salvia before...
Keep it growing!
( sorry for bad english )
Have a nice day.
Geschrieben von: No.6 Apr 21 2008, 12:45
Let's call Sea Mac Jesus - or better: God
Shit that are the most beautiful plants I've ever seen! 
lg,
a
Geschrieben von: the_sect Apr 21 2008, 14:30
Great plants! Incredible height, I wish my Sallys would be so tall and healthy.
greetz
Geschrieben von: fluchsDirMaus Apr 23 2008, 11:40
wow , so amazing great !! 
cannot find right words ...
never heard of somebody did this before!
would you mind sharing seeds with german community?
... planting from new seeds would increase the genetic diversity
Geschrieben von: DerBelgier Apr 28 2008, 18:58
It's just incredible hoow good large this plants has been grown
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Apr 29 2008, 14:37
Thank You!
I think these plants LIKE It here in San Diego!
So, if they never stop growing I'll have to post another picture in a month - to keep you updated.
I don't have any seeds this year. I'll try again this fall.
Carl
Geschrieben von: lif3 May 14 2008, 20:03
I am always amazed at your wonderful growing capability.
The DEA is as corrupt or more so than the illicit drug dealers. They like to make things up.
Lets all move to Canada, I hear they have amazing non-analogue laws. Something tells me that the Feds, are going to schedule it the same as mescaline and such.
I love California though.
lif3
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Jun 6 2008, 10:33
We decided they would be glad to grow as tall as I have a pole to tie them to! They won't stop no matter how nicely I ask them! I am Lost in the Forest ...
Geschrieben von: The_Buffalo Jun 6 2008, 10:58
omg, that´s overwhelming!
I cant belief what I see
Geschrieben von: Luke89 Jun 7 2008, 14:35
I' m going to visit san diego this summer and i'm really tempted to visit you and your great plants^^ they are soo amazing!!! ^^
Geschrieben von: Hanfblüte Jun 24 2008, 08:29
O my god! Sea Mac your plant is so nice ...My plants died all the time
And do you grow them out of seeds?... Magic 
...
Im sorry but my English is bad
Geschrieben von: r3Dm4n Jun 25 2008, 14:36
you got the biggest and best-looking plants ive ever seen *freakin out*
amazing hight, great color of the leaves.
best wishes
Geschrieben von: Sight Jun 27 2008, 02:11
Your plants are so nice! You are a good men and i think you love your plants
sry for my bad english.
What you doo with the plants? Eat, smoke ore only for fun?
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Jul 5 2008, 03:50
You should see some of the sick plants in my yard!
What WERE 7 foot trees are piles of dead Square sticks now. The remains of Iggy, and Caleb, and Isabel are dried dead skeletons in my yard: Lest you think I have 10 green thumbs!
Normally you only get to see my garden successes: But I've Killed as many as I've raised.
Mostly now I grow for fun: I chew up a BIG Bundle of HUGE Leaves only rarely.
My plants KNOW they are safe from me walking up to them and suddenly tearing something off of them. There is a CARPET of dead Salvia leaves lying on the ground! I love them SO Much I beg them for cuttings with tears in my eyes!
But all over the Yard are dead giant Salvia Divinorum trees ... But new ones start up and grow into giants and die in their turns: It's a circle of life kind of thing!
(Pay no attention to that man behind ... Errrr ... those dead trees in the side yard: the great OZ has spoken!)
You ONLY See the Plants that are my best successes and you NEVER see my failures so your opinion of my gardening skills must be unrealistic! I have plants that get sick and die just like YOUR Plants do. It's just that I have VERY Bright sun conditions and plants grow Very VERY Fast: so I have a LOT of them going giant at any given time!
But, no: If you lived in San Diego people would be admiring YOUR Plants Too! I'm just Lucky that I happen to live in an area that Salvia will tolerate growing in the native conditions. (It's a bit too hot and dry for this plant here.)
I'm not really a good gardener: I'm just a lucky humbug who LOVES this Plant Very MUCH!
Geschrieben von: karline Jul 5 2008, 13:34
R.I.P.
..but now, you've very much to smoke.
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Jul 14 2008, 06:05
And now, 3,000 words about how much I love my Garden!
All Photos July 13th, 2008.
Plants still getting bigger and BIGGER all the time. (I'm scared ... )
Happy Gardening!
Geschrieben von: lif3 Jul 17 2008, 09:42
Your plants are so amazing.
I wish I had that kind of sunlight where I live, I wish I had more than a window to grow them in.
I also wish there was more information about growing Salvia with professional lights rather than just fluorescent bulbs and sunlight
Keep on gardening guys, and best of luck with your situation Sea Mac.
James
Geschrieben von: Deadwalker Jul 30 2008, 20:35
youre plant is so amazing =D
i would already be happy about a 15cm cutting and youre plant is 3meters high ^^
XD
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Aug 2 2008, 07:04
A Night shot of the Garden.
July 29th:
Some leaves as big as my hand!
Geschrieben von: lif3 Aug 5 2008, 07:57
So jealous .
I almost lost my plant!
I went away for vacation and I stupidly forgot leave a reminder to water my plants .
They went a whole 8 days without a drop of water. I started to freak out, came home, and they were extremely parched, you could tell by the leaves, and the plant dropped all it's smaller leaves in favour for the bigger ones.
This plant is sheerly amazing.
James
P.S. Does anyone know if a watering device is good for salvia? I know that you leave a few days in between waterings, but if I leave, I won't have any means of watering my plants, and im sure people will forget.
http://www.leevalley.com/garden/page.aspx?c=1&p=45295&cat=2,2280,54307&ap=2 ??
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Aug 7 2008, 01:58
That will work for Small plants for a short time.
News Flash!
A Couple of them got TOO big and fell over in a pile!
They are OK with this and would gladly grow "Upward" in a new direction.
I Am not OK with this. I must repot AGAIN! DANG!
How to repot a 3 Meter/10 foot Salvia plant? AND save my back?
Geschrieben von: lif3 Aug 11 2008, 20:26
hehehe, you might be out of luck sea mac!
Yeah, it seems to be working quite well, I moved them into clay pots, big clay pots. They have 3x the original root ball space, at least.
It'd be nice if they tripled in size too
James
Geschrieben von: Bricolador Apr 5 2009, 21:03
What's up with Carl?
No pictures of astonishing salvia?
Are you buried alive under your incredible 15 foot plants?
We have a convenient excuse ->winter break, what's yours?
Best regards, B.
Geschrieben von: Astaroth Apr 6 2009, 11:14
No pictures of astonishing salvia?
Are you buried alive under your incredible 15 foot plants?
We have a convenient excuse
->winter break, what's yours?Best regards, B.
maybe the situaion and the process of outlawing our loved flower made him stop growing them
Geschrieben von: coma Apr 10 2009, 18:26
don´t think that this man could stop growing salvia
Geschrieben von: k_richter Jul 19 2009, 11:28
As I first saw your plants I was lost for words, and nothing changed actually.
You have to imagine we do have plants that are maybe 30cms up to 1,5m. It is as you would compare, a orb-weaver spider with an Goliath birdeater.
It's just so amazing
Best wishes to you and your plants
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Sep 18 2009, 01:12
My garden was at its largest last year. But I still have a couple of "Trees" Left
I like all 5 pages of this topic best: http://www.salviasource.org/forum/general-talk/recreational-time-out/30/ you can see some of my best works on those last 3 pages!
Here's a few more photos of my garden: http://www.salviasource.org/index.php?page=Gallery&pg=2&poster_id=481&per_page=32
Or you might find me hanging out here: http://thetruthabouthemp.com/hempity/index.php? instead ....
Geschrieben von: PsychO_o Sep 18 2009, 01:57
You are alive <3.
Geschrieben von: r3doX Sep 21 2009, 17:00
Very nice plants they looks so great
Geschrieben von: Dani92 Sep 12 2010, 13:39
oh your plants are great i love them
Geschrieben von: Christli Dec 29 2010, 19:24
you've got great plants
I wish mine were as yours, but when I ordered my cutting it was very hot outside and so the cutting dry up
Geschrieben von: ju87 Jan 9 2011, 23:15
The sad thing is, since a longer distance of time we didnt heard anything new from our californian friend
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Dec 7 2012, 15:19
Hey: I'm not dead yet. 
A lot has happened since I last Wrote here.
A Short summary:
My garden was lost (all but 1 plant) when the cruel landlord (who was robbing me for years) gave me 60 days notice to move out.
I was blessed to find a new house at which I could start over. A year ago I started over.
A Friend left 2 'Blosser' strain plants in my care 'for safekeeping'. I named them "Dearie" and "Darling".
The 'Aquarian' strain plant grew back from a dead looking root ball in the Old pot. Only Survivor of Old Garden. His name is "American". Other "baby" plants have Serial Codes and Birth Times on their pots but haven't taken names for themselves yet.
So, now we have a new location to grow in. And, Somehow, I have gotten these plants to behave crazily again.
First: you can easily get seeds from Salvia plants. The HARD Trick is getting them to flower.
I knew this. So I placed a 10 foot 'wall' (with a 'roof') of Black Tarpaulins around the garden area this fall. Then I put the 2 BIG 'Blosser' plants back in the dark to grow.
Click to make any photo full sized.
http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201211/201211251454.jpg
Branches putting out multiple Racemes
http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201211/201211251458.jpg
The "Light Proof Box" of Tarps I used to get them to Bloom.
http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201211/201211251459.jpg
A yard tall "Baby Plant" wants to bloom Too!
http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201211/201211301131.jpg
"Dearie" (in Front)
http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201211/201211301132.jpg
"Darling" (Back in "The Box")
http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201211/201211301133.jpg
Flowers appear November 30th
http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201211/201211301134.jpg
"American" (Sole Survivor of Old Garden)
I have Pollinated 3 days in a row. And you all have a front row seat - again - as another batch of Plants slowly overruns my house and Give Me SEEDS!
Namaste!
Carl (C. Mc. = Sea Mac) McCall
You don't really want to know how dark things got for me in those 3 years. I was dealing with some VERY Evil People ....
But, It IS Enough that God rescued me from them and placed me in the Light - to grow again!
Seeing you around again soon.
Geschrieben von: hogie Dec 7 2012, 17:11
Welcome back!
In Europe we can keep Salvia plants only outdoor in summer. If the plants never get artificial light at night, they will flower every year.
Nice plants.
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Dec 7 2012, 17:24
Welcome back!
In Europe we can keep Salvia plants only outdoor in summer. If the plants never get artificial light at night, they will flower every year.
Nice plants.
My plants grow quickly every day: and then sleep well at night. Don't think I would like to grow 8' tall plants indoors ....
Outside is FINE! I've never seen flower season start up so thick before!
Geschrieben von: hogie Dec 8 2012, 02:38
Yes I know, that it's holy shit, that we cant grow salvia outdoors all over the year. But indoor grow has also advantages. No snails, no Insects, hydroponic. So you can get dreamlike plants with dreamlike leafs. Indoor grow ist only nervous and expensive.
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Dec 8 2012, 03:49
Yes I know, that it's holy shit, that we cant grow salvia outdoors all over the year. But indoor grow has also advantages. No snails, no Insects, hydroponic. So you can get dreamlike plants with dreamlike leafs. Indoor grow ist only nervous and expensive.
By setting the lights to 11 hours light and 13 hours dark your plants will bloom whatever the season!
There ARE advantages to indoor growing!
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Dec 21 2012, 02:51
The 'Aquarian' Strain plant has 5 or 6 seeds developing on 2 different racemes.
The 2 'Blossers' are just getting revved up and I began pollinating them today.
Links to these photos:
Most of the Garden:
http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201212/201212200928.jpg
Flowers starting to pop: http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201212/201212200927.jpg
4 Seeds:
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http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201212/201212200930.jpg
Side View of Calyx with Seed bulges developing:
http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201212/201212200931.jpg
2 of 4 seeds set in this Calyx:
http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201212/201212200932.jpg
Click to make any photo full sized.
http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201212/201212200927.jpg
http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201212/201212200928.jpg
http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201212/201212200929.jpg
http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201212/201212200930.jpg
http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201212/201212200931.jpg
http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201212/201212200932.jpg
Until Next Year! Happy Holidays, All!
Geschrieben von: Terminator Dec 24 2012, 11:43
Hi welcome back! You got some really nice flowers!
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Dec 24 2012, 19:48
Yes, I think I shall have a few flowers this year .... and perhaps some seeds also.
They DO seem nice this year, Thank You again.
I estimated about 5,000+ flowers will fall off these plants in the next 5 months. I might try to make PERFUME with them ....
(If I DID I would probably be the only person in the World to try making Salvia divinorum Perfume, huh?)
I guess that makes me Crazy. That, or the fact that I believe that The Second Coming of Jesus is coming up on Christmas Day 2013
- one or the other of those 2 makes me "Crazy" Oh, and Merry Christmas!
Geschrieben von: Waaagh Dec 24 2012, 22:57
Hey Seamac , happy christmas to you too
I ´am very happy to see you here again !
Its not long time ago , i looked in your thread and smiled about the nice plants again.
The Flowers are beautiful , an I hope there are seeds in a few weeks
Please remind us if it works.
And maybe if they are germinate and grow...
Greetings, Waaagh
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Dec 26 2012, 01:39
I ´am very happy to see you here again !
Its not long time ago , i looked in your thread and smiled about the nice plants again.
The Flowers are beautiful , an I hope there are seeds in a few weeks
Please remind us if it works.
And maybe if they are germinate and grow...
Greetings, Waaagh
I will post photos often this winter. You will know as soon as I do.
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Jan 14 2013, 05:24
Success!
Tonight I crawled around on the ground under my plants with a strong flashlight and tweezers and picked up as many calicies as I could find.
I examined the calicies and found at least one with ripe seeds in it.
I want to send all my seeds this year to Mr. Daniel Siebert.
Photograph Link: http://seamac.info/cupboard/garage/garden/201301/20130113ripeseeds.jpg
Geschrieben von: puppy Jan 16 2013, 00:18
WOW theese are very nice seeds 
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Jan 16 2013, 05:53
Salvia divinorum DOES set seeds IF you can coax her to bloom. Most people's plants do not bloom because they are near a window/or street light/or security lights. If your plants are under your living room window they will stay up late and watch TV, or Party, with you and the gang. Plants that stay up late and party (or watch TV) NEVER want to bloom.
There are hundreds of flowers on those other 2 plants: and I need to TRY to pollinate as many as I can reach as often as I can. Seeds readily set: but not all make it to full size and color and maturity. I'm going to TRY for quite a few more seeds before Spring. This is the second time I have shipped Salvia seeds to Mr. Daniel Siebert ... the last time was 6 years ago. Here is a perfect chance to diversify the species with new strains - I need to do my very best now.
I know the signs the plant shows me and can tell from the outline of the base of the calyx IF nutlets are swelling up inside there! I know by looking from the outside, and don't need to see Up Inside, to know there are seeds forming. There's a certain "Look" to pregnant calicies ....
From Now on, when I SEE that specific swelling: I'm going to carefully slide the opened end of a 5/8" square Ziploc baggie over the calyx (to protect it from that seed eating bird). It will make finding them much easier if the calyx falls off the plant.
See? I told you nice people I'd keep you informed. And this group is among the first in the world to be informed that Sea Mac did it again 6 years later!
(So my getting seeds 6 years ago wasn't a 1-shot fluke: I've got the secrets to getting seeds and published them at http://sageseeds.info for every one to follow.)
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Jun 28 2013, 04:33
A shot from a month or two ago featuring two of my current 8 foot tall "Salvia Trees"
http://sageseeds.info/cupboard/photos/garden/salvia/2013/05/gardentree.gif
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"Dearie" in front and "Darling" hiding behind her ....
Geschrieben von: nicita Jun 28 2013, 20:13
It is always nice to see pictures of your very beautiful plants, thank you! And your flowers and seedsd are just amazing! Did Mr. Siebert receive them and have you heard from him since?
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Jun 28 2013, 20:25
And your flowers and seedsd are just amazing! Did Mr. Siebert receive them and have you heard from him since?And now for more recent Photos:
Baw002, here, had the largest leaf ....
I tried Measuring it ON THE Plant:
But it wasn't until I removed it for wrapping that I got a glimpse of what a happy Salvia plant does:
(14 Inches active solar collection surface! Sun of a beech: that's some record holder there!)
I mailed a few leaves to somebody - to chew up:
One of Several Bundles Shipped:
Fresh from the trees with dirt/arthropods/and ALL still on them!
That person will get them tomorrow!
Geschrieben von: hogie Jun 28 2013, 20:32
Nice plants! I see you love your plants.
Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Jun 28 2013, 20:35
Ja!
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