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post May 20 2004, 02:12
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RedGreenVines, a member of the entheogen.com forum has reported that depositing pure Salvinorin onto cigarette papers and chewing them has produced reliable effects for him with as little as 7 milligrams.

If true, it appears that chewing is required when trying to use Salvinorin that way. I have not tried it myself. Perhaps the chlorophyll compounds are not needed in a chew, if what he is reporting is correct.
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hmm, perhaps it's possible to place the Crystals in a Jewing Gum smile.gif


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How can I grow Salvinorin crystals or isolate them from extract?

Growing crystals isn't always easy or guaranteed to be produced each time, but here are two ways that I have done it. The first two methods were taught to me, the third method I developed myself:

Methods to Salvinorin Crystallization:

1. Crystalline precipitation in cooling solvents: Dissolve as much near pure salvinorin powder as you can into 151 proof Everclear Ethanol Alcohol (25% water) warmed to 130-140 degrees F. and then wait for it to cool to see if crystals appear (191 proof Ethanol containing only 5% water might work better). Sometimes I have to re-heat a vial of Salvinorin and Ethanol several times to at or just below boiling before they might grow when cooling. If they are going to appear they should be there within an hour or two. Each time I re-heat a vial containing salvinorin dissolved into 151 proof Everclear Alcohol I loose some of the Salvinorin and crystals don't always grow, but they usually show up on the fourth try.

2. Crystalline deposits from solvent evaporation: Dissolving high purity salvinorin into Acetone and allowing the solvent to slowly evaporate at room temperature so that it evaporates very slowly will sometimes produce large crystal formations over a period of a few days to a week, but not always. I have grown crystals by evaporating Acetone fairly quickly in either an oven at 120 degrees f (just an ounce of solvent) or by having a fan blow air across an ounce of salvinorin saturated Acetone, but the crystals usually do not form as large as they do when the evaporation occurs slowly. Also, if you have not removed enough of the chlorophyll waxes the crystals will be hard to see, so try to remove as much of it as you reasonably can if your going to try to grow crystals. The extract should be better than 90-95% free of Chlorophyll impurity if trying to grow crystals otherwise the waxy impurities will hide them from view or stick to the surfaces of the crystalline structures, although if the evaporation container is both small and deep enough like some spice bowls are the Chlorophyll in the solvent usually deposits high up on the sides of the glass as the fluid level evaporates down, by the time the solvent level gets near the bottom of the glass where crystals start to precipitate out of the fluid, most of the Chlorophyll is already out of the solvent.

3. Isolation of crystals from dried extract using Naphtha: Through trial and error extraction research I was surprised to find that the dark waxy extract from a 99% Isopropanol extraction of Salvia divinorum is loaded with small crystals which are formed within the dark waxy Chlorophyll compounds as the solvent evaporates. The following explains how to isolate them out of dried extract but will only work if you have removed as much of the tannin contaminate as you can from the extraction solvent first. The way I do this is by letting the extraction solvent sit undisturbed for 12-24 hours to allow enough time for the tannin to settle out of the fluid as a fine sediment. Once the tannin has settled pour the extraction fluid into another container for evaporation, leaving the tannin behind. Next, the extraction solvent is completely evaporated leaving a dry waxy extract behind. Once free of any hint of extraction solvent and completely dry, pour in a few ounces of pure Naphtha and scrape every bit of the extract into the Naphtha, including all films which may have formed on the sides of the evaporation container. Completely dissolve every bit of the extract into the fluid until all of the clumps are worked out of it. Once your finished working all of the clumps out of the extract it is very important to leave the container of Naphtha alone to sit still for at least a half hour or more to allow enough time for the fine salvinorin particulates stirred up into the Naphtha to settle to the bottom of the container. After the extraction solids have settled you can then pour the Naphtha off of the extract in the bottom and then add more clean Naphtha back to the container to wash the extract through again, waiting a half hour or more each time. Keep washing the extract with Naphtha until it will no longer take on much more color and has become a light tinted translucent green.

After it's obvious that Naphtha has become ineffective removing additional Chlorophyll and unable to take on more color with each additional wash of the extract, pour off all of the Naphtha and completely dry the extract of any hint of Naphtha. Next, pour in an ounce or more of water into your container of extract and stir for a couple of minutes, allow time for the particles to settle to the bottom of the glass and pour the water off, adding more water to the extract and stirring again. If tannin is present in the extract the water will become a yellow to brown tint, but if using a cup or more of water at a time small amounts of tannin being dissolved out of the extract might be so diluted by that large of an amount of water to be unable to see any change of color to know if its being removed, because of this I like to work with only an ounce of water at a time to be able to know when all of the tannin has been completely removed and I can stop washing with water. Once you are done removing tannin with water completely dry the extract of all moisture and place all of the dried extract into a small two inch diameter spice bowl, or even a small shot glass or something of similar size. Next, pour in enough fresh Naphtha into the glass of extract so that there is about a half inch of Naphtha on top of the extract and briskly stir for about a minute with a spoon, then place the glass or bowl into an electric oven set to about 120 degrees F. with its door cracked open a couple of inches and evaporate all of the Naphtha out of the glass. Keep the small container of Naphtha as far away from the heating elements as possible because there is potential for fire. When using this technique by leaving the glass or bowl completely undisturbed in a warm oven while the Naphtha is evaporating off the extract, the heavier salvinorin crystals will all fall to the bottom of the glass while the lighter Chlorophyll impurity forms an upper crust on top. Once all of the Naphtha has been completely evaporated out of your extract you can freeze the glass to cause the top layer of wax to stiffen up enough to be able to easily peel the crust off of the top to expose nothing but golden colored to light green high purity sand-like salvinorin crystals in the bottom of your glass. They might not seem like crystals unless seen under magnification, but they are.

Note: I stumbled upon method three as a complete surprise when I was experimenting with water extractions of leaf for an hour in boiling hot water, then removing the leaf and evaporating the water off all the way down to dry tannin which was then extracted using 99% IPA to recover the salvinorin lost to the water, about 50%. I then removed the tannin from the IPA through settling and after evaporation cleaned the extract with Naphtha as well as I could. After drying the Naphtha cleaned extract I then did a water of the powder just to be sure I had removed all of the tannin contaminates and then after pouring the water off dried the extract. As an added measure, just to make sure the extract was clean enough I added about an ounce of Naphtha to it and stirred the powder into the solvent to see if it would take on any more color, which it didn't, so instead of pouring the Naphtha off I just put it into an oven set to 120 F. to evaporate and was later surprised to find nothing but crystals under a thin crust of Chlorophyll. These crystals could not have formed within the Naphtha itself because salvinorin is insoluble to Naphtha, so the crystals had to have come strait out of the extract itself, having formed when the 99% Isopropanol was being evaporated down to a dry extract. Prior seeing this, I didn't know that the dark Chlorophyll wax deposited upon evaporation of the extraction solvent had crystals in it and as far as I know neither did anyone else. No one seems to be very interested in using this new method yet, but in my opinion it is the easiest and most efficient way of obtaining high purity salvinorin that there is.

Warning! The above method of evaporating any amount of Naphtha in an electric oven could cause a fire or worse. I only post this for informational purposes. It worked for me without problems but it might not work for you without causing a fire!


Pictures from method one:

I grew the crystals in the pictures below by dissolving 900 milligrams of refined salvinorin powder (light green color) into 100 ml of hot 140 degree F. 151 proof Everclear drinking Alcohol (Ethanol) and then set aside for two hours at room temperature each time to see if crystals formed. I had to go through three cycles of heating and cooling before these beautiful crystals appeared. The first three times through only a cloud appeared composed of extremely small crystals not visible to the eye except as a cloud. On the fourth heating I came back two hours later and found these beautiful large crystals had formed. When heating your Alcohol thoroughly shake or mix the salvinorin powder into the Alcohol to dissolve as much as possible. Keep adding salvinorin to the hot fluid until I will no longer dissolve any more and has a few specks of solid salvinorin in the bottom which won't completely dissolve to indicate that you have fully saturated the hot Alcohol. When the Ethanol cools back down to 20 degrees C. sometimes salvinorin crystals will precipitate out of the fluid because the Alcohol cannot hold nearly as much salvinorin when cooled down to room temperature. Just leave it alone and let it cool down to room temperature setting on a shelf, nothing special needed. I have used 99% Isopropanol to grow crystals this way too, but they are always much smaller than when using Ethanol. Acetone won't form crystals at all, Methanol will sometimes form larger crystals than Ethanol, but hasn't been as reliable for me compared to 151 proof Everclear Alcohol which usually takes three or four cycles of re-heating the 100 ml jar before nice crystals form. I have been able to grow crystals in 151 proof Ethanol the same way using a much smaller 30 ml vial of hot Alcohol with as little as 100 mg of Salvinorin producing the same size of crystals.

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These crystals were sent in for analysis and were found to exceed 99.5% purity using HPLC without any other peaks showing.


Pictures from method two

The following two pictures are of some very nice white salvinorin crystals which formed through slow evaporation of Acetone at room temperature. These crystals were produce by adding white salvinorin powder into a small bowl full of Acetone warmed to a temperature of about 130 degrees F. then stirring in as much salvinorin-A powder that could be dissolved into it and setting it aside for a week. When I came back I found these crystals. Sometimes crystals will grow, other times none will form at all. The second picture was taken close up using a zoom stereoscope set to 45X magnification. The light brown colored material at the base of the crystals is tannin sediment that was not removed from the salvinorin powder like I should have done by mixing water into the extract to dissolve any remaining tannin contaminate into it and then pouring the water off to remove it. Of course dried before adding to the hot Acetone.

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Pictures from method three:

The following pictures are salvinorin crystals obtained strait out of dried Chlorophyll waxes from a 99% IPA extraction. The photograph on the left was taken on macro within about three inches of the bottom of a regular drinking glass used to evaporate Naphtha cleaned extract that had about a half inch of clean Naphtha stirred in just before placing the glass into an oven for evaporation. The smooth layer you see is a waxy crust of Chlorophyll waxes which formed on top of the salvinorin crystals below it. I tore a portion of the wax off the top to show the crystals underneath. The photograph on the right was taken with a zoom stereoscope set to 30X magnification.

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If you would like to see over 100 pictures of Salvinorin crystals join this group and go to the photo files: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Salvinorin

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QUOTE(Sphere @ Jul 17 2004, 10:10)
I found out who was anonymously threatening me, an old man in the netherlands who I crossed two years ago over an issue to do with his web sites sales methods for Salvia that I disagreed with. I won't name him in public and I have since taken care of things so that I can continue posting on this subject without fear.


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post Jul 20 2004, 10:31
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Thanks!

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post Sep 22 2004, 20:13
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hab mich heute mal dran gesetzt und den text ins deutsche übersetzt
zumindest die ersten beiden verfahren, da mir das dritte zu lang und gefährlich schien wink.gif

werde ins ins andere forum stellen

steht nun im Salvia-Konsum Forum wink.gif

viel spaß beim lesen und evtl. ausprobieren

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I have gotten results with powdering up the leaves, mixing them with 151 proof rum, then taking shots. I used a little more then 1/8 ounce for 4 shots, I took 2 shots with orange/pineapple juice and I could feel it within 30 seconds, and it lasted for almost 20 min, but it was a very mild high, the only way I could tell that it wasn't the alcohol was because I was trippin a little, as opposed to being drunk. I have tried eating salvia before and I have found the some people react very well to it, and have a great time for upwards of an hour, but this requires about 15 grams dried leaf per dose. I’m hoping that someone can help me find a new substance that would help the body absorb the salvia better if eaten, because the high is a body high as opposed to a head rush, so I can still think and function normally.

Again, and advice on something that can be consumed that will take less salvia would be great, i buy not grow, and its not too cheap when ordering by the ounce.
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I can get effects from 151 proof salvia divinorum tincture, but they are rather weak unless I used the staggered method of dosing with three full 1 milliliter doses of tincture held in my mouth for about four minutes, swallowing and then immediately dosing with three more 1 ml dropper fulls of tincture, waiting 4 min again, swallow and then one more time for a total of 9 dropper loads full of tincture taken over a period of about 12 minutes.

The good thing about dosing with tincture this way is that you can continue dosing this way until you are so intoxicated you can't handle the dropper anymore, at this point your still below level 5 and yet able to experience all of the visions you would get smoking salvia, but in a more gentle way than smoking and longer lasting too. Although for me it takes about 12 dropper loads full to achieve that kind of intensity with tincture which quickly uses up a half ounce bottle of tincture, too expensive to do this unless using home made.
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nice idea smile.gif

but the dosage sad.gif

that would be the best possibility to consume salvia (imho).

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nicenice.. are salvinorinchrystals like these sold anywhere?


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QUOTE(farin @ Aug 17 2005, 19:01)
nicenice.. are salvinorinchrystals like these sold anywhere?
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Crystals, I don't think so but powdered salvinorin can be had if you email the vendors making enhanced leaf, some of them sell it but ususually at high prices. I'm trying to remember the one guy I know for sure who does but can't seem to bring it to mind right now. If I remember I will post, it was his initials and the word ethnobotanicals together.

Edit: MJB Botanicals sells salvinorin powder.

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QUOTE(Dille @ Mar 3 2004, 18:47)
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good txt .. sorry but how can i "konsumate" the cristals ??  dry.gif

i guess if you don't know exactly what you're doing, and that would make the question redundant,
you should not consume salvinorin crystals !
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Crystalls konsist nearly of pure salvanorin. Konsumating pure salvanorin is very dangerous because its so konzentrated that you cant regulate how much you take. Loss of controll and bad trips kann be the konsequenze. Salvanorin crystalls should only be used for science.

I saw pure salvanorin in a headshop just recently, I think it was iamshaman.com

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is the site down?
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no, why are you asking?
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