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> Growing Your Own Salvia Divinorum Seeds: A Guide.

post Oct 13 2006, 01:38
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I wanted to ask all european salvia growers to try the simple instructions on my webpage:

Grow your OWN Salvia Divinorum Seeds: An Illustrated Guide to Hand Pollination of Salvia Divinorum.

I would be pleased to help. I speak english only but I put a "Babelfish Translation" module there that probably would be hilarious to read from. I have loved 'herbs' a LONG time (I'm 50).

My simply made Webpages:

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Growing Salvia Divinorum for Seeds wink.gif


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Welcome to Salvia Community,

very nice and interesting pages! good.gif
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post Oct 13 2006, 14:11
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post Oct 13 2006, 14:18
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this is rly nice, you seem to be very experienced.


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Yes, really nice!

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post Oct 13 2006, 17:44
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Hey, that´s very interesting! Maybe i´ll try it, when my Growbox is empty again mrgreen.gif
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Thank you!
Your guide is exactly what I needed for my crossing experiments. If my plants induce flowers I will cross them with another Salvia plant. What do you think, is this possible? Maybe you have literature about this topic?
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Yes! I know the Grower in Santa Barbara named "Jupe" and He has Racemes (Flower Spikes) on Blosser and HoffmanWasson strains. And MAYBE his Luna will flower, Too.

If he grabs a Flower from Luna & rubs it on a HW or Blossers Stigma he COULD get the Very First "Hybid Strain SEEDS" from those flowers calices when they are 'done'.

Or YOU Could! Yes! I Speak no German but Your English is VERY Good.

If you take the Stamens from ONE Strain of Salvia and Wipe them on the Stigmas of a Different type of Salvia you get Hybrid Salvia Seeds!

They are VERY VERY Rare: but very easy to get if you have more than one strain salvia growing.

All the Wild (Outdoor) Salvia's around the Northern Hemisphere are Starting to put up flower stalks UNLESS too Much Artificial Lights Disturb them at night. Those plants do not bloom: but any plant getting MORE than 12 Hours of Darkness a night WILL be preparing to flower at this time.

This Is Why the Page is Started now. Why should I be the only one to grow good seeds?

They happened wild on Hawaii last year: bees did it and Somebody gathered Seeds from plants 8 feet tall there. (Salvia LIKES Hawaii: it's Tropical!) I find from research and by doing it myself that Salvia EASILY sets seeds: it needs a warm location (around 60? F) so the flowers don't freeze and fall off (45 degrees F maybe). (and 4 weeks ripening time.)

I put the Pictures of EVERYTHING I've done with Salvia (Except using it as an Aphrodisiac) - growing wise - on this Webpage: Outdoors Salvia Garden in San Diego, CA. USA.

(Picture 1) I bring it home from the Nursery.
I brought home 'a square stick' and It's the Mother of ALL the Salvia in my Garden. White Grubs ALMOST killed her but I found out what was happening and bought Nematodes. So I'll get seeds from SOME of my Salvia Trees this year (Maybe in the Hundreds)

So, I wanted YOU to find out How easy it is.

If you set the timers on the Lights so you get 12 1/2 hours of Dark and 11 1/2 hours of light you will in a month see the Starting signs of Flower Spikes forming. in 3 - 4 weeks the flower buds start to open. You keep wiping every day and check for changing Calices with seeds in them in 3 - 4 weeks after then. You put Tiny baggies over the Calyx to protect against loss of seeds. Seeds are VERY Tiny. you can harvest seeds for 2 or 3 months then spring makes them stop it (Or you reverse the lights so they can grow more like it is spring.)

Anyone growing indoors could "Force" her to make LOTS of Flowers TWO Times a Year. You could make Money and improve the Species at the same time.

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Thank you!
Your guide is exactly what I needed for my crossing experiments. If my plants induce flowers I will cross them with another Salvia plant. What do you think, is this possible? Maybe you have literature about this topic?
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Mr. Valdéz in Michigan did it in 1980 I think:

http://www.sagewisdom.org/valdes87.html

On this Page: he pollinated 14 Flowers - And 4 produced over a Dozen seeds!

How they Grew it.

What they Discovered about forcing flowers from S. Divinorum in Growth Chambers.

Plants shorter than a Half Meter WILL Bloom!

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More pages in English that are VERY Useful:

http://www.sagewisdom.org/valdes94.html

http://www.sagewisdom.org/valdes83.html

Those two I call "White man meets talking plant"

Essential: http://www.sagewisdom.org/usersguide.html

Beautiful: http://www.sagewisdom.org/pharmakopoeia.html

My Picture on His Web Site: http://www.sagewisdom.org/hummingbird.html

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You'll See it on my Web Site: http://members.cox.net/hummertime/index.shtml

And Other Hummingbird Pictures made by me:

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Salvia IS an Aphrodisiac, Oh YES! w00t.png

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post Oct 15 2006, 10:48
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Yes!  I know the Grower in Santa Barbara named "Jupe" and He has Racemes (Flower Spikes) on Blosser and HoffmanWasson strains. And MAYBE his Luna will flower, Too.

I think he´s talking about crossing differnt Salvia species, and not the different Salvia Divinorum strains.

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lol! Would be nice to have such birds in Germany too. I like them! mrgreen.gif

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Salvia IS an Aphrodisiac, Oh YES!   w00t.png

I know!! And it´s very powerful w00t.png
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Fish Head 3: Thank you for Clairifing my Understanding. (Pardon: My English is bad sometimes biggrin.gif too.)

In Germany the Bees would do it: But I think it is too cold to grow salvia outside there in the winter. Bee hives are discouraged indoors: they Quickly learn to raid the Fridge. That: or install those flap type bee doors so they can come and go as they needed. biggrin.gif

I Don't know if Divinorum will accept pollen of other sages. I Don't know if Other Sages will accept Divinorum Pollen. I Encourage you to try. If you get a New cross sage with Psychotropic Properties you will be very famous. The World will beat a path to your door and I'll be in that rush! I've heard rumors that S. Splendens has Psychotropic properties - try Crossing those two Species!

Bear in mind Salvia D. Pollen is Microscopically small: try to use Other Sage Species that have invisible pollen. If the pollen grains are visible they probably won't fit into the Microscopically small Pollen Channels down the Style in the Pistil of Salvia Divinorum. Likewise I wonder if S. Divinorums' tiny pollen wouldn't 'get lost' in a Larger Pollen Channel and fail to make it to the Ovaries.

The Reason I cannot point him to a Page is that I think he's the first to try.

Very Commendable. I wish him Luck.

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In Germany it is very difficult to get salvia divinorum to flower. Its only possible indoors or in a heated greenhouse. Outdoors the Plants begin to flower in the late autumn, when it ist too cold for the plants for producing viable seeds.
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I think my Salvia-Plants start to flower at the moment. At their heads (don´t know, wheather it´s the right word) they get strange tentacles (don´t know the right word for it too ^^), which don´t seem to be young leaves. Unfortunaly I don´t have enough time to try to bring them to a right flower. cwy.png
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Yes: your plants are following their Instincts.

You are growing indoors through a Window getting Natural Light, Right?

It is Starting to look like this:
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The ends of the Branches look like this, Right:
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You have Flower Spikes Forming. In a Month you will have flowers starting out. You do not have to do anything except keep away TOO much Light at Night. If Plant is DARK over 12 hours a Day it will try flowering soon: you do not do anything but watch and Flowers will happen Anyway. When Flowers bloom you wipe flower parts together: then you watch MORE. then in 4 Weeks you get a Present off your Plant and America & Germany celebrates your Good Fortune.

Is this the first year this plant has Flowered? The Flowers smell very sweet. Good to eat after they fall off (The part that holds seeds is still on the Plant).

You will have to play 'Hummingbird and Bee' with your Salvia Plants this Year biggrin.gif She will give you a NICE Christmas Present.

I AM Delighted I came at this time to this Forum!

Nothing is Random Chance, Eh?

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Last year, I had a few salvia divinorum plants, they began to flower. But it was too cold, so they all died, but only the flowering plants cwy.png

So I think, that flowering plants need more heat to survive:

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Hogie:

Salvia Plants Can't stand Frost.

They are a Tropical Plant.

Yes You DID have flowers last year I SEE.

I AM Sorry they died.

They will live in a Garage or Closet in a Pot if you give them light and Fertilizer.

Keep her from freezing until spring then outside for the Summer!

Best to you.

Carl

PS Salvia Grows Best in a Bigger Pot. Mine likes 15 " to 24 " pots. GOOD Drainage: let Soil dry out on top between waterings. Fertilize weekly Miracle-Gro. Keep from Frost. They will Last MANY Many years.

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