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Geschrieben von: pritch Dec 15 2006, 02:49

Hello there! I just hoped you could maybe answer a couple of questions of mine on growing salvia. Basically I am wondering how fast salvia grows from cuttings to say potting plant size? Also how much would you say a dried harvested salvia plant would weigh after say 2-3-4-5-6 months? Just anything really as an example. This is if I was growing indoors using grow lights.

Thanks

Dave

Geschrieben von: AliceD Dec 17 2006, 12:25

hi !

This question is not easy... but my plants(see at picture galary & showcase) give me appr. 300gr of dried leafs in one year, one plant (outdoorgrowing). so i think you get more... but is it not expensive to use lamps for salvia divinorum?

Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Dec 26 2006, 14:22

I never keep track but in best conditions a Healthy LARGE Salvia Plant can add from 1/8th to 1/4 of an inch a Day to it's height.

The Smaller the Plant the more slowly it grows.

Once a Plant gets this many leaves and gets this big it will grow very rapidly!

Best of Luck Growing!

No: Salvia Divinorum doesn't need fancy grow lights. Salvia Likes regular old florescent Lamps the Cheap kind.

http://www.sagewisdom.org/valdes87.html

This is how they grew it in Michigan:

Ordinary Lights - don't buy any fancy lights. Those are for Cannabis.

Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Jun 17 2007, 18:16

I Did some measurements about that. I have ideal growing conditions.
This 'baby' plant was barely 4 months old when I named her "Sally" and gave her a 10" pot (And Measured her):


She was 26 inches high (66 cm) and she had a Lovely leaf a foot long (30 cm) ...


These two pictures were taken May 24th 2007.



3 Weeks later (June 13th - 4 days ago) I measured "Sally" again.




The SAME PLANT (The one on the left with measuring tape against it) 3 weeks Later is now 41 Inches tall (105 cm)!

And she has even bigger leaves now at (34 cm) thirteen inches:


In 21 days this plant grew fifteen inches! That is ALMOST 2 centimeters (Or 2/3 Inch) PER DAY!!!!

NOW I know for SURE that my plants DO grow from a quarter to a half an inch a day and it's NOT my imagination!

Geschrieben von: Bricolador Jul 17 2007, 17:37

Thats really amazing!

Could you tell me about the climate?

Stand the plnts the whole year outside?

Thank you, B.

Geschrieben von: Ratz Jul 17 2007, 18:20

...take a look where he comes from. The climate there is a little bit different from the one in austria.

Ratz

Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Jul 17 2007, 18:32

Plant Pictures from San Diego, CA (USA)

Plants are outdoors all year around. (Of Course: there is no room inside for something as large as Calvin ) We seldom have frost. Maybe once every 20 years? Lots of very strong summer SUN reflected from surrounding buildings (Plant is under a tarp as an Umbrella). Add Miracle-Gro every 4th watering. They never stop growing, but in Summer they grow VERY Fast!

I have plants less than 6 months old that are 5 feet tall!


Note some leaves are football sized!



Calvin is a "Poster Child" for Miracle-Gro Fertilizer ...

And the Other Garden on the other side of the building is doing well also


Stay Tuned!

Sea Mac http://sageseeds.info

Geschrieben von: Ratz Jul 17 2007, 18:47

These pics are kind of sadistic to us...

You know how "bad" the climate for growing SD here is...

But I _love_ to take a look at and read your posts...

(and I hope my english is not to bad to be understood here)

Ratz

Geschrieben von: sia Jul 20 2007, 19:42

aaaarghrgrh.... I wish our weather would be as good to grow Salvia as it is in southern California ~_~ ... on the other hand, I wouldn't survive... everything over 30°C makes me melt.... Northern California, Oregon and Washington are nice though ... *dreamdream*

Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Jul 21 2007, 01:38

But at least you know what is possible. Unusual, yes: but not impossible!

Happy Growing!

Geschrieben von: Bricolador Jul 21 2007, 10:47

[quote=Ratz,Jul 17 2007, 18:47]
These pics are kind of sadistic to us...


He tortures us with his pictures, i'll torture him with my english!

Geschrieben von: Dingo Jul 21 2007, 22:25

LOL


Since 6 or 7 Month I try to kill his Brain with my bad English but I have no chance for success .

Hi Mac, nice to see you back again.

Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Aug 24 2007, 14:42

Sally didn't stop growing.

I took another Picture and measured her again.

Sally was born on Jan 31st this year: she is not quite 7 months old.



Now she is (As of August 21st) 78 inches (2 Meters) tall! Sally is growing a foot a month!

I can look up her skirt now ...

Geschrieben von: Razer Aug 24 2007, 15:48

wow this is a fast flower !
and amazing huge!
I'm so surprised, beautiful.
*wanna-have-it*

Geschrieben von: paulsenior Aug 24 2007, 15:50

Hi Sea mac, youre plants are amazing.
Can you tell me how much salvia plants you have?
Greetz

Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Aug 25 2007, 08:53

Lots and lots!

I went out and looked tonight for you. I don't know exactly: there are too many littering the landscape - I can't count the forest because of all the trees in the way ...


The north side of my house is one garden of my "Old Plants": all plants (except one) are 5 feet tall or more (I think Jack is 7 feet tall ...)

13 Plants north side in an eight inch pot or bigger. That number is exact.


The east side of my house is the big garden: with this crazy 8 foot tree


and about 18 - 25 more 'teenage plants' (Like 6 foot 6 inch "Sally" and her twin brother 6 foot 3 inch "Sammy") ranging in size from one foot to almost 7 feet above their dirt line in their pots.

And then 20 to 30 'baby plants' in 3" pots.

About a dozen to 20 plants bigger than me (3 or 4 bigger than me in 7 months: San Diego weather). And about a dozen more of those are above my waist.

From 50 - 70 Plants "About 60 Plants" grow for me: some have chosen to grow VERY FAST!!!!

Geschrieben von: sia Aug 25 2007, 11:45

O_O ... what do you use all those plants for, except for producing seeds...?
omg ... WAAANT ... WAAAANNTT....

Geschrieben von: paulsenior Aug 25 2007, 12:09

Hi Sea mac,thanks for looking
I think you have the most plants of the private grower.
Just Amazing!:)
Greetz

Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Aug 25 2007, 14:28

Cuttings.

Thousands of Cuttings!

All year around I give away cuttings. Just come to see me: I give Salvia away.

I MUST Give away them: no more room in garden for more trees ...

Lately I give away 4 foot tall plants - so few people drive to see me I give trees instead of cuttings.

Clear the yard out: but too slowly - the plants are piling up.

San Diego warmth and sunshine makes them grow very VERY Fast!

Geschrieben von: karline Aug 25 2007, 14:57

wow! that's so great! never seen something like that before! best non-commercial grow ever!!! i'll print out your pictures to hang it next to my plants that they can see their ideals !!

greetings from germany,
karline

Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Aug 27 2007, 03:47

Your post made me laugh.

"See that? Why can't you guys grow like Sea Mac's plants?"

Because San Diego has insanely great weather, nice and warm, all year around: with winter light levels about where your summer light levels are, I'd reckon. And Our Summer light levels would kill unprotected Salvia plants: they get plenty of reflected light from surrounding buildings underneath that tarp. (and even I think they are growing like they are charmed ...)
No rain here in 4 months now ... And it's really too warm for them to be happy here this time of the year ...

"You need some great big banks of Grow Lights around us, if you expect a meter of growth in 2 months, out of us!" yeah "And Bigger pots too!" your plants just said ...

_______________________________________________________________________________

You remember the 3 pictures I posted of that 'baby plant' Sw004?

(She took the name "Sally" and I call her that every day: "Sally, I Love You!" )

According to my careful records: that plant was the end of a long branch - that was removed about 5 PM on January 31st, 2007 - from the JOLLY GREEN GIANT PLANT itself! (you know which one I mean ... )

On May 24th Sally was 26 inches high (66 cm) above the dirt level in her pot! (3 months and 3 weeks old. Two feet two inches tall)


On June 13th (3 weeks Later) she is now 41 Inches tall (105 cm) above the dirt level in her pot


And then on August 21st she's at 78 inches above the dirt level in her pot (2 Meters) and rises above me (about 2.34 meters above the cement the pot is on): I'm 5' 8" and can look up on the undersides of top leaves for caterpillars now without disturbing her!

She's just a baby plant still - in my book - because she is not even 7 months old yet ... but she grows a meter in the last 2 months!


The Topic was "How fast does it grow?" and I posted pictures and measurements to show you ... and apparently the answer is "Up to a METER in 2 Months!"

Goodbye Sally: I'll send "Jack" over - in a couple of months from now - to climb you up to the Giant's Castle in the clouds - and there Jack will steal a Magic Harp and a goose that lays golden eggs... I'm sure to get a cut ...

Now you be good and don't knock any aircraft down on your way up to the clouds ... No going through any Jet Intakes allowed! (/Fractured Fairy Tale)

________________________________________________________________________________


I can't Mail her, OR lug her, away now - she's gotten too big. I guess she'll have to stay here in the Sacred Green Garden with me and I'll worship them - and with the honor of growing the Green Goddess - at their feet - Errr ... roots!

Now where am I going to put several more 7 Foot trees as they spread out over the next year?

HELP! I'm drowning in TOO Many Salvia Plants!

Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Sep 17 2007, 14:47

I listed a few plants for sale in the Local classifieds - and SOLD them!

I'm thinking seriously about commercial growing now.

Sorry: Can't ship overseas! (Yet)

And how do you propose I box and mail this?


He's grown into the Tarp now - I've got to cut him back. He is almost as twice as tall as me.

Geschrieben von: fr34k Sep 18 2007, 21:12

Your plants are really nice and the biggest ones i've ever seen How long are you growing Salvia now?

Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Sep 18 2007, 21:16

2 days short of Three Years & Seven Months.

Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Sep 13 2009, 02:36

A little over 5 1/2 years now.



Happy Gardening!

http://www.salviasource.org/index.php?page=Gallery&pg=1&poster_id=481&per_page=32

Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Jun 28 2013, 20:50

How Fast Does It Grow?

Depending on Ambient Light Levels: 1/8" to 1/4" (3 mm to 6 mm) per day.

If supported: she can grow 2 to 3 meters high.
http://sageseeds.info/cupboard/photos/garden/salvia/2013/05/gardentree.gif
"Dearie" in front and "Darling" hiding behind her ....

Closer View here: http://sageseeds.info/cupboard/photos/garden/salvia/2013/05/gardentree.gif

What sort of harvested yield to expect?

Depending on Ambient Light Levels!

If you let a small plant grow 1 year without harvesting:


It has a chance to grow larger leaves:


Some over a foot long:

(14 Inches active solar collection surface! Sun of a beech: that's some record holder there!)

2 or 3 bundles like this:


And leave half the leaves on the plant:

Geschrieben von: Pilzkopf Jun 29 2013, 23:29

Very nice plants and thank you very much for sharing your garden with us!
Beautiful pictures you have made and nice idea to animate some of them.
One of my favourite animated picture is where you had been hiding behind your Salvia forest, but to be honest I like all of them. Nice work.
Are you using the leafes for phychodelic experiences? (I think so)

Greets from Germany

I saw the other pictures from the posted link and I just have to repeat what a nice garden you had lay out.

Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Jun 30 2013, 14:25

Thank You!

The Garden I had in 2008/2009 was larger and nicer ... yes. But this Garden is starting off OK after about a Year and a Half here.

I use the leaves ... but it always takes me to the same box and puts me in it. So I am bored of it: and dead leaves pile up under the trees. You would cry if you saw all the wasted sacred leaves.

I do like making the animated pictures.

I have a few Hummingbirds from 2006 http://seamac.info/hummertime/. (I have made over 50 more Hummingbird pictures but have not added them yet.)

And there are animations of Large Machines http://seamac.info/carlpm/wizard.php#fair

Geschrieben von: Pilzkopf Jun 30 2013, 21:14

I can imagine how many leafes you have to "waste", but with such big plants it is not surprising. How you should use them all? It´s a way too much...

These pictures are nice too and good job to let some of them look like they are "endless".

Did you see these Hummingbirds in your garden or just on another place?
It seems you have many running projects with own web pages?

Geschrieben von: Sea Mac Jul 1 2013, 03:25

"How you should use them all?"

As Compost, I guess ... </ heresy>

"Endless" photos ...
People with the Type of "OCR" that compels them to count every car on a Train just LOVE my "Movie" of a freight train!

All of my "Animoshuns" are shot by me, from Tripod mounted Camera: of subjects right in front of me (Except the ones I AM In!).

Those hummingbirds and feeders are the one's from 2006 (at the old house) ... I have Animoshuns and stills from the most recent feeders and birds also.

Yes: I own 6 domains. I build web pages ALL the Time! Links to 4 of my web sites are in my Signature.

My web site I AM most proud of is Software Santa: http://softwaresanta.com/sssmf/ this one you might find most useful .... No Thing is for sale there.

I just became Addicted for Life to http://softwaresanta.com/sssmf/index.php/topic,4186.msg4217.html#msg4217 - a fun free puzzle with 450 levels! I finished the Tutorial episode and then I finished The "Egypt" and "Antarctica" episodes. (I have a combined score of 60.500 on both.)

I have a Job in July that keeps me busy. I help out and work for a Show: http://www.comic-con.org/cci

Geschrieben von: Pilzkopf Jul 1 2013, 14:01

Hobbies are very important and nice to see what you have lots of them.
I will visit your web pages soon and maybe I will register at SoftwareSanta.
Software is one of my Hobbies!